sorry to be so dense, but these aren’t actual photos, right? these are photoshopped. my question is what is the meaning of this collection of pictures? I don’t really have a position on the this flag issue, other than I’m tired of all the whining.
This isn’t about who is whining. There is a huge issue behind this. And it isn’t solely about the flag. Educate yourself – read read read
and you might understand from both sides.
ctregan– You mean not many black soldiers in the Google image archives that I culled those from.
howewellframeshop– They’re not photoshopped, and they’re merely an illustration of Southern Pride in the military, nothing more and nothing wrong with that.
DebSweetDeb– You’re absolutely correct. History is being rewritten to fit a false narrative. Guess which other countries did that, and then find out what happened to their people…
Here’s one of the few objective papers on the Black Confederates, and it matches up with what my late uncle (a Civil War historian) told me when I was in grade school and studying the topic.
He asked me, “Bunky, why do you think the War Between The States was fought?”
“To free the slaves.”
“No.”
He then explained in detail that The War was about economic imbalance first, with slavery a secondary issue at best, because so few in the Southern States owned slaves, let alone could afford one.
Gotta disagree. That’s an interesting revisionist article by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Note that his father William Coates was an unemployed member of the Black Panthers. Coates fights for U.S. reparations to be paid to the grandchildren of black slaves by all U.S. citizens of all races, even though the vast majority of us alive today never met a slave, and none of us ever owned one.
Coates also ignores the fact that slavery was a legal institution through most of the civilized world at the time. The 13th Amendment was passed 150 years ago, and some people still can’t accept that fact.
The War Between The States (aka The War of Secession, aka The Civil War) was a war of economics and attrition.
And slavery has nothing to do with race. Try this:
Alabama: http://www.csawardept.com/documents/secession/AL/ . As you can see, every one lists the protection of slavery as the purpose of secession, or refers to the rights of “slaveholding” states.
Nice to see you after all these years. My point was that the Rebel Flag is and was a symbol of Southern bravery and self-reliance, and was never a symbol of slavery, despite what the re-writers of history espouse.
Slavery was the norm throughout the world (and since the dawn of civilization for that matter) when this country was formed. The USA should be celebrated for her abolishment of slavery, rather than be castigated for not doing it sooner.
Not many black soldiers in your photographs?
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sorry to be so dense, but these aren’t actual photos, right? these are photoshopped. my question is what is the meaning of this collection of pictures? I don’t really have a position on the this flag issue, other than I’m tired of all the whining.
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This isn’t about who is whining. There is a huge issue behind this. And it isn’t solely about the flag. Educate yourself – read read read
and you might understand from both sides.
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ctregan– You mean not many black soldiers in the Google image archives that I culled those from.
howewellframeshop– They’re not photoshopped, and they’re merely an illustration of Southern Pride in the military, nothing more and nothing wrong with that.
DebSweetDeb– You’re absolutely correct. History is being rewritten to fit a false narrative. Guess which other countries did that, and then find out what happened to their people…
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Here’s one of the few objective papers on the Black Confederates, and it matches up with what my late uncle (a Civil War historian) told me when I was in grade school and studying the topic.
He asked me, “Bunky, why do you think the War Between The States was fought?”
“To free the slaves.”
“No.”
He then explained in detail that The War was about economic imbalance first, with slavery a secondary issue at best, because so few in the Southern States owned slaves, let alone could afford one.
Click to access RoleofBlacksConfederateArmy.pdf
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ECONOMIC SLAVERY FOR ALL: While we were distracted with the Confederate flag flap, Congress quietly forfeited our entire economic future via fast-track trade authority
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/economic-slavery-for-all-while-we-were-distracted-with-the-confederate-flag-flap-congress-quietly-forfeited-our-entire-economic-future-via-fast-track-trade-authority/#w1GrYEMwGMIBf9XB.99
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http://blackconfederatesoldiers.com/home.html
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This article examines the documents of secession and other civil-war-era southern documents explaining the reasons for the civil war. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/what-this-cruel-war-was-over/396482/
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lolarusa—
Gotta disagree. That’s an interesting revisionist article by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Note that his father William Coates was an unemployed member of the Black Panthers. Coates fights for U.S. reparations to be paid to the grandchildren of black slaves by all U.S. citizens of all races, even though the vast majority of us alive today never met a slave, and none of us ever owned one.
Coates also ignores the fact that slavery was a legal institution through most of the civilized world at the time. The 13th Amendment was passed 150 years ago, and some people still can’t accept that fact.
The War Between The States (aka The War of Secession, aka The Civil War) was a war of economics and attrition.
And slavery has nothing to do with race. Try this:
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Louisiana: https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/why-did-louisiana-secede/
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Alabama: http://www.csawardept.com/documents/secession/AL/ . As you can see, every one lists the protection of slavery as the purpose of secession, or refers to the rights of “slaveholding” states.
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Just google “secession declaration of causes”.
It’s fun to visit your blog again!
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Lolarusa–
Nice to see you after all these years. My point was that the Rebel Flag is and was a symbol of Southern bravery and self-reliance, and was never a symbol of slavery, despite what the re-writers of history espouse.
Slavery was the norm throughout the world (and since the dawn of civilization for that matter) when this country was formed. The USA should be celebrated for her abolishment of slavery, rather than be castigated for not doing it sooner.
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I will ask “what flag flew over the Washita, Bear River, the Marias, Sand Creek, Wounded Knee & a dozen more massacres?”
In Africa, they say “wash your hands before you point at me”
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Richard– Not sure what you’re talking about. I’m not in Africa, and I’m not pointing at anyone.
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